
The Ramble Refinery with Heather Sager
You can’t spell message without mess—because big ideas don’t show up fully formed. They start rough, unrefined, and a little all over the place. But that’s not a problem, it’s part of the process.
The best speakers, thought leaders, and business owners don’t wait for the perfect message—they refine it by showing up, sharing, and shaping their ideas in real time.
That’s what The Ramble Refinery is all about.
Welcome to the place where we normalize the messy middle of speaking, marketing, and business growth. Whether you’re leading workshops, speaking on stages, or showing up on podcasts, your voice isn’t just a marketing tool—it’s your most valuable business asset.
Hosted by Heather Sager, a speaking coach and business strategist who helps experts get their ideas out of their heads and into the world, this podcast dives into the raw, unpolished side of refining your message, using your voice, and growing your impact.
Because every great message starts as a mess—so get ready to ramble.
The Ramble Refinery with Heather Sager
Make Video Your Superpower with Milan Kowalewski
SURPRISE! It’s a podcast TAKEOVER!
My friend Milan, who you might remember from episode 63, has graciously taken the mic while I rest and recover.
Milan is an alum from my program, Speak Up to Level Up (or SULU as we call it). He runs an agency based in NYC that has been a huge asset to Team HS. Last year, when I wanted to up my video presence online, he was the first person I called and helped us grow our YouTube audience.
So when it comes to helping YOU become more confident and effective on camera, there’s no one I trust more. This episode is for you if you have a complicated relationships with video :)
I hope you enjoy this special edition take over, I’ll be back next week.
And please help me say thanks to Milan by giving him love on Instagram and check out his podcast, The Online Marketing & Media Podcast. It’s an excellent resource to learn what's working in social media, content marketing, & online marketing strategies to propel your business to the next level!
EPISODE SHOW NOTES👇
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📣 The Signature Talk Accelerator starts September 8 → click here to get on the waitlist. Nail your message, hone your story and create a magnetic talk that grows your business from any stage.
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